Thursday, February 17, 2011

Kaine opponent planning to disrupt Tim Kaine's speech at JJ? Updated with comment from "Vuvuzela Guy"


[Note: Upon further investigation by members of the Draft Perriello movement, it has become clear that only one person was trying to organize a disruption of the JJ dinner. That person is a Kaine opponent, but not necessarily a Perriello supporter (though he is apparently a member of the Draft Perriello Facebook page). That person has since walked back his comment and either deleted it or had it deleted by the moderator. The moderator of that page may want to police its membership a little better. I am happy that the Draft Perriello movement has clarified that it will not make an angry noisy demonstration at the JJ Dinner.]

Original Post:

Well this is kind of disturbing. It seems like some of the people in the Draft Perriello movement may be planning to disrupt a speech by Tim Kaine. The Draft Perriello folks are well-meaning and I admire their passion, but their behavior has escalated in a really negative fashion in an incredibly short amount of time. It will be interesting to see how the rest of the dinner's attendees react if a handful of Perriello zealots try to shout down Tim Kaine.

The person I feel sorry for in all of this is Tom Perriello. There's no way he approves of this kind of over-the-top, obnoxious demonstration. Perriello has been out of the country, working to help the spread of Democracy in Africa--specifically in Egypt, where he was detained by the Mubarak government during the recent demonstrations. Tom deserves a lot better than this. There would be nothing wrong with a dignified display, such as wearing Perriello stickers left over from his most recent run for Congress. That would be classy and would demonstrate support for Perriello in the event that Kaine decides not to run.

But to openly plan to disrupt a speech by the person who really is the consensus candidate for most Democrats in Virginia is really irresponsible. It suggests that the people pushing so hard for Perriello's nomination (and not Tom Perriello himself) have become a little unhinged. These people would do well to take a deep breath, calm down, and begin thinking about how their actions will be perceived by their friends, because that, in a way is what JJ is: it's sort of an annual family reunion for the people who make up the Democratic and Progressive movement in Virginia. Now is not the time to embarrass Tom Perriello in front of his friends and political family.

Update: Bob Brigham, the person who "joked" about bringing vuvuzelas to the JJ Dinner to disrupt any speech by Tim Kaine, has asked that I publish the following statement:
"Any mention of vuvuzelas in America is, by definition, a joke. Writing a blog post like this over what is very obviously a one line joke on Facebook is a clear sign that The Richmonder is either the dumbest person in Virginia politics or entirely disingenuous. Either way, entirely untrustworthy and only deserving of a hearty, mocking laughter...the type of laughter that begins far down in your stomach and soon becomes so overpowering that one finds themselves actually rolling on the floor...the type of laughter usually reserved for Tim Kaine's announcements of which offices he does not seek."
As you can see, Mr. Brigham's sense of humor is rather clumsy and poorly expressed, so perhaps we can take this dolt at his word that he did not actually mean to encourage people to disrupt the JJ Dinner. Mr. Brigham's behavior and commentary have done little to advance the cause he claims to support. Mr. Brigham's comment at the Draft Perriello Facebook page was apparently deleted by the moderator of that site . . . 19 hours after it was posted.

14 comments:

Hypo Nightmare said...
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Paul said...

This is highly disingenuous. It's one guy on a Facebook post, not some grand conspiracy. You're drumming up a faux controversy out of nothingness. Planning to go and do event visibility for a candidate is part of what the J-J Dinner is all about; one nutso (who lives god knows where, so who's to say he'll even be there) does not a plan make.

Aimee Fausser said...

Also, what about a one-line joke from someone who's on the other side of the country constitutes "openly planning" to disrupt anything at the JJ? I'm losing more respect for you by the minute with this nonsense.

Lionel said...

I'm one of the folks organizing the pro-Perriello presence at the JJ dinner. I can assure you that what we're doing is showing that Perriello has real grassroots support, and would make a strong Senate candidate. We're certainly not going to disrupt Tim Kaine's speech (and, incidentally, he's introducing Governor O'Malley I doubt he'll be talking about the Senate seat). Not only that, but I, personally, would enthusiasticly support Kaine if Kaine is the nominee.

The goal of the Draft Perriello effort is, in my eyes, to show that Tim Kaine is not the only hope that VA Democrats have of holding the Senate seat. If Kaine wants to be a Senator and jumps in enthusiasticly, then I'm behind him. What I don't want is him to run because he thinks that if he doesn't run he is ceding the Senate to George Allen.

Meredyth Gilmore said...

Excuse me? One facebook comment referencing vuvuzelas does not represent "the people pushing so hard for Perriello's nomination." This is -one person-.

The Richmonder said...

Well that's a relief. As someone who strongly supports Tom Perriello, I would hate to see him embarrassed. As

I said in my post, I think a dignified display of support for Perriello such as wearing his campaign stickers is well-merited and would be very well received. It would honor Tom Perriello and would be an eloquent thank you to Perriello for all his hard work.

If you are aware of people among your movement who plan to act out in a negative way, then now might be a good time to ask them to calm down and leave their vuvuzelas at home Saturday.

Aimee Fausser said...

I also highly doubt that anyone would want to shell out $160 to disrupt JJ. I mean, really, there would be far more entertaining things that money could buy.

But I don't know, maybe you've uncovered a vast conspiracy to undermine the party. The joys of facebook...

Bob Brigham said...

I'm the guy who wrote that, here is my official statement in response, I demand you update this to post my statement in it's entirety:

"Any mention of vuvuzelas in America is, by definition, a joke. Writing a blog post like this over what is very obviously a one line joke on Facebook is a clear sign that The Richmonder is either the dumbest person in Virginia politics or entirely disingenuous. Either way, entirely untrustworthy and only deserving of a hearty, mocking laughter...the type of laughter that begins far down in your stomach and soon becomes so overpowering that one finds themselves actually rolling on the floor...the type of laughter usually reserved for Tim Kaine's announcements of which offices he does not seek."

I expect to see my full response included as an update forthwith.

The Richmonder said...

Luckily you caught me before I went out. There will be no more comments posted on this page until after 11 o'clock. If you post a comment and it doesn't appear I'm not ignoring you, I'm just out of pocket.

Lowell said...

FYI, the headline of this article is incorrect. The person who made the comments you reference has admitted on Blue Virginia that he is not a Tom Perriello supporter, but an opponent of Tim Kaine. My guess is that of the 775 Draft Tom Perriello Facebook members and 615 Draft Tom Perriello for Senate petition signers, there are no more than single digits who are motivated by anti-Tim rather than anti-Tom sentiments. If you have evidence to the contrary, please present it. If not, then please change your headline and text of this blog post. Thank you.

The Richmonder said...

That is an excellent point Lowell: I'm changing the title of this post and further editing it to reflect that it really is just one loudmouth.

Aimee Fausser said...

Also--it was 100% a joke, I still think it's a ridiculous assertion to say that Bob was trying to "organize" anything...if he were, it would have been far more than a one line comment on a facebook page.

The Richmonder said...

Well Aimee. I think the moderator of the Facebook page should have yanked that comment shortly after it was posted and possibly banned Bob Brigham from the site. All he's been doing around this issue is troll sites with an anti-Kaine message, but he's been doing it in pro-Perriello forums: people are going to draw conclusions.

Whether you realize it or not, when they started a Draft Perriello, they started a political campaign and they ought to be in political mode, considering how people might react to their message and who might be hijacking their message.

Bob Brigham has hijacked the pro-Perriello movement to spread an anti-Kaine message. That won't help Perriello with the DPVA central committee.

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