Thursday, March 18, 2010

Actually, this is more like treason

There are those who, in pursuit of political power, are willing to call "deem and pass" treason. They are lying. Article III, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution defines treason as follows:
Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
If you want an example of contemporary behavior that flirts with treason, then I suggest you look at this person advocating violence against U.S. state governments:
So the states listed in the article are keeping money wrongfully exacted, without compensation.

One has to wonder what the appropriate response of The People should be to such an outrage. Should taxpayers reduce deductions from their wages to engage in self-help?

In this day of assaults on our Liberty in the cause of statism, one has to wonder whether the Founders didn't have the right answer.

The question "When do reasonable men take up arms?" is one that should always be contemplated by a free People. Or a People that wants to remain free.
There are conservatives out there calling on other conservatives to levy war against the United States: that's a lot more like treason my friends than anything the Democratic Party may do over the weekend.


Cargosquid said...

Actually that is more like rebellion. Which is not Treason.

I seem to remember a certain act of rebellion around 1776....

I also see him as ASKING if this is the time to exercise the rights enumerated under the 2nd Amendment. Or why else did you think that WAS enumerated?

When do free men take up arms? What line has to be crossed for YOU to take up arms to defend YOUR freedom?

J.C. Wilmore said...

Play word games if you wish: the moment someone takes up arms against a democratically elected American government they are levying war against the United States and are traitors.

The moment the conservative movement begins using violence against their fellow Americans, they will find that they are terribly outnumbered and the consequences of their action will be bitter indeed.

Cargosquid said...

Would you say the same about the leftists that advocate violence? Its not only the "conservatives" that have threatened to take up arms.

Would you say the same about patriots of all stripes that take up arms against a democratically elected government that refuses to govern under the Constitution and becomes tyrannical?
(Notice I'm not saying that the current government has reached that point.)

The government is not always in the right. It is the duty of all free citizens to keep the government in check.

If the government did finally become so tyrannical that arms were necessary, the general populace, if not apathetic, might surprise you and join in.

So what's your answer to the age old questions?
When do free men take up arms? What line has to be crossed for YOU to take up arms to defend YOUR freedom?

J.C. Wilmore said...

Actually right now Cargosquid it pretty much is just conservatives advocating violence. Please don't bother making this argument without examples or with examples that are forty years old.

James Young is a real person who said what he said within the last week and he stands behind it.

The revolution of 1776 was against a government our forefathers did not elect and which sat 3,000 miles away on another continent, in what had become a different country.

For conservatives to advocate the violent overthrow of a government the American people elected in 2008 and will have the opportunity to challenge in an election later this year is not the same thing.

To advocate violence against the constitutionally elected government of the United States is treason, period.